Saturday, 19 February 2011

Are tattooed women unattractive?

As a proudly tattooed woman, I promise not to take your answer (too) personally.

Apologies for my almost-radio-silence today, and what will probably be the same again tomorrow, as I'm having a bit of a busy weekend and I'm all over the place - from dabbling in steampunk for the first time (I wore a casual steampunk outfit to work, which, I might add, was very well received by customers and co-workers ^^) to shopping in Swanage for some 'rainbow Goth' clothing (yes, I'm still hung up on that idea), lunch with the family, arranging a sort-of-date, and being beaten on the dance machine in the arcade by a thirteen-year-old Polish boy whilst wearing New Rocks and full-on punk-rock Marie Antoinette attire. Just, y'know, the average weekend.

Anyhoo. What was I saying before I interrupted myself? Ah, yes, the Daily Fail (thanks, Amy of Juliet's Lace, for that expression, I am now overusing it in real life...) has done it again with a recent vox pop on what their middle-aged, terminally boring readers (excluding myself and family, obviously...) find a definite turn-off when it comes to the opposite sex.

I thought you guys might be interested in the results.

Biggest turn-off for women? Beards. Now, in both the Goth and metal scenes, big bushy (and sometimes braided, beaded or dyed) beards are a common sight - in fact, the best looking Goth guy I ever met (no, I'm not name-dropping, my semi-boyfriend has homicidal tendencies) has a beard. Although, it's neither big nor bushy, more of a 'the devil is a charming gentleman' neat little point. One step up from a goatee, really.

Whilst I can't stand a moustache (what is the point of hairs tickling your nostrils during a kiss without the buffer of said facial hair actually being aesthetically pleasing?), I have nothing against beards - and I'm guessing that more than a few Goth (and metal) loving ladies agree with me, because I'm sure that not ALL of those hairy guys at the WGT can be single.

And what do guys apparently hate to see on their women? Tattoos, facial piercings, or too much make-up (OK, and harem pants, but I for one am going to let them have that one).

So, that's an awful lot of Goth and alternative ladies out of the running then. And as a multi-pierced, tattooed, make-up-crazy woman, I take that a little personally...

Really? Seriously, people, what is NOT hot about tattooed beauties, such as (just for example) Megan Massacre?

Source: Torture Couture
Yeah. That's what I thought.

Being serious for a moment, I guess attraction is different for every person, but I fail to see how body art or elaborate make-up (or a beard) can make a genuinely stunning person unattractive. Unless it's badly done, of course.

For the Mail's full article (which I chose to take issue with, by the way, as it described the above as 'GUARANTEED passion killers', which is blatantly untrue), click here.



They are beautiful and I like your site. Thanks! Here is a true story of mine in return.

Lisa Nicole Lopes had premonitions about her own death, but she wasn't able to avoid it, despite the early warnings. I feel that I can relate to her, but I dealt with similar suspicions (of my own) differently than she did and I, unlike her, am here to tell you what I did to survive my first encounter with The Reaper.

Lisa Lopes was better known as Left Eye (a nickname that a boyfriend gave her because he said that her left eye was lazy). She was one of three singers in the 80's band TLC. Her premonitions about her own death and subsequent untimely demise are well documented, because Lisa and a crew were filming a documentary in Honduras during the time. Left Eye Lopes spoke on film about her omen, and again after a car that she was riding in had run over and killed a young boy. She lamented that the spirit that killed the boy was actually aiming for her but had missed.

Lopes paid for the little boy's funeral and did what she could to comfort the lost lad's family. Apparently Left Eye was right about the spirit that haunted her, because a month after the boy's death, Lopes died in a car crash (in Honduras). This time she was driving. Lisa was the only one in the vehicle that was wearing a seat-belt, but she died... and everyone else survived.

After hearing a story like this, some would say that it was Lisa's time, and that there wasn't anything that she could do to avoid it. Had I not gone through a similar situation, I might agree. But since I did, I don't.

There was a time when I felt like (my) death was close to me. I ignored the eery feelings for awhile, chocking them up to pessimism, but eventually I faced the strengthening force, first by admitting to my self that it existed. Left Eye got this far, but recognizing spirits isn't rocket science for god's sake. You have to fight shit like this, not freeze like a deer caught in the headlights!


It was 1986 and I was in Davenport, Iowa, when I finally decided to face the Reaper before he faced me. Since the Reaper has no face, I'm speaking figuratively.
I was sitting on a bar stool when a fellow came in asking if anyone wanted to get a tattoo. We chatted, and before too long I was the customer that he was looking for. We left the bar and went to a little garage space that he tattooed out of. The scene was totally unprofessional, as far as tattoo shops go, but since I was a carny (carnival guy) it wasn't anything new to me. I stopped the artist from apologizing for the place and we got down to the business of picking something out to tattoo on me.

There wasn't a lot to choose from, no walls of colorful flash or volumes of designs just a single, thinly filled, loose leaf binder. Having never wanted a skull tattoo, I surprised myself by selecting one with a black rose between it's teeth. "That's the Black Rose Of Death tattoo," the needler told me. "Perfect," I proclaimed! "It's just what I need to fight the reaper. Put it on my left arm where I can keep my eye on him.¨

I believe that the left represents the spiritual side and the right represents the physical side, so my tattoos are placed accordingly. One month later, in Chicago, I was stabbed (in the heart and stomach) to death. The doctor that saved me, said that I have a new birthday and... I still have that tattoo, too.

Black_Lilly said...

Considering I'm going out with a bearded man, I obviously don't find them unappealing, but I've never been too keen on them before. I reallly think that with tattoos (and any beards) that it needs to be done artfully and carefully like the girl's in the picture, which looks stunning. Otherwise, in Australia at least, there is the chance of it being declared as 'tart art'. It other words, it really just needs to be really well done, and on the right person. I don't think they'ed suit me.

Anonymous said...

It depends on the person, I guess. If you're comfortable with it, and doing it because you love it, people can usually tell. And someone who is happy with him or herself is far from a turn off (as long as one doesn't become narcissistic--but there are always exceptions to even that rule). I find people who are comfortable with themselves, regardless of their preferences (and regardless of whether I share them or not) very interesting.

Anonymous said...

From the way you the make the target audience sound, I wouldn't imagine them to be very keen on, or even consider Gothic fashion, or any alternative fashion into the equation when people voted.
If I wasn't super Goth-conscious I could probably see myself in thinking of non-Goth chicks that wear a lot of makeup caked on and meaningless tattoos sporadically placed as trashy.
Poorly applied makeup, aesthetically lacking and meaningless tattoos, paired with impulsive unmaintained facial piercings aren't a pretty sight. And those who choose those things without the intention to care for them for the long run have a tendency to look that way.
These people could have easily had the image of 'middle-aged-woman-who-still-wears-the-same-amount-of-makeup-as-she-did-in-high-school-when-she-made-body-modifications-as-a-teenager-that-she-didn't-think-through' came into play way before 'deviant-gothic-folk' even crossed their minds.
If that makes any sense.

MissVermilion said...

For me there's nothing sexier than bodymods.I love tattoed girls,I love lobes stretched guys...And piercings ahhhh <3

Stephanie said...

You know, it all comes down to different strokes for different folks; whatever floats your boat. There's people out there who hate the bleach blond tan barbie types, and there's people who hate the tattoos and piercings of a gothic beauty. Don't take it personally. Everyone is different, you know?

Emily Lynn G. said...

We have to realize, Amy, that most people aren't into alternative ladies ( was that poll on a alternative website or no? no, right?). Guys get away with it more because they look more "bad boy", or whatever. A lot of guys find tats, piercing, and short hair ( that MUST be added to the list!) as unattractive because we look to "butch", i guess. I loathe whenever I forget my makeup or am in a rush for my outfits and people decide THEN to compliment me-or, worse, point out their love of my "new, more mature" getup. Um, I was late for the bus so I couldn't do my eyeliner, but thanks for saying that I look like poop most days anyway. Some people.

My opinion: beards?? eh. wait, were you talking about Voltaire? Just a guess. Anyway, no, I LOVE 5 o'clock shadows but thats about it. Not all men can pull beards off.
And the tats thing to some people is a HUGE pet peeve of mine. They act like it ruins you; but a well-placed, creative, and tasteful tat can be a real adornment. I like face-framing, chest or stomach tats for ladies the best, in my opinion, but I've seen plenty of good exceptions. And sexy tattoos don't have to be kinky. Some are cheesy, bot others aren't. Like any adornment such as jewelery or clothes, some are hot and some are not, some have taste and some look cheap. depends.

Emily Lynn G. said...

And a good lip piercing on the right guy is super hot, but depends on the face. Same with eyebrow piercings.

Angel of Darkness said...

Like most in not all of the previous commenters, I too think that it all depends of the person, their look and how well it's done, and who lieks what. If some guy doesn't like me when I get a lip ring and nose ring and possibly a tattoo then he is not the one for me!

Julietslace said...

I love that whenever you say Daily Fail everyone knows what newspaper you're talking about. Oh and I'm okay with beards as long as it's not those dodgy paedo ones.

The Green Fairy said...

Adora Batbrat wears a shit tonne of makeup, has various tatts and has a facial piercing and she's like...the poster girl for gothic beauty...So yeah, I think it's lads who don't like tattooed women.

I LOVE unique, creative, meaningful and well-designed tattoos. I think they're are just a piece of art on skin instead of canvas. However, I feel tattoos are generic these days in a lot of cases.

Also, if you don't like moustaches, you haven't seen the right ones.

Please facefail stalk the hopefully future husband of mine:!/profile.php?id=609034877

ultimategothguide said...

@ Emily Lynn - no, not Voltaire, a guy I knew in person =)

Also, I really hope nobody thinks that I am anything like butch, I would be horribly offended :-/

@ The Green Fairy - I knew somebody would come and pwn me over that moustache comment... I will, however, point out that a beard AND moustache combo is fine by me, I'm talking about a lonely granddad moustache and baldy chin... just doesn't do it for me I'm afraid.

I see what everyone means, if we take the alternative scenes out of the equation and think of Average Joanne with a Playboy tattoo, six tonnes of orange foundation and a wonky Monroe piercing then I can see what the audience surveyed were talking about...

Unlacing the Victorians said...

I spent two summers as a lifeguard and saw plenty of tattoos on people of various ages and body types. Half-naked middle-aged and old people plus tattoos equals sheer horror, and not in a good way.

So unless you're willing to maintain your body to how it was when it you got the tattoo so it doesn't stretch oddly, put sunscreen on the tattoo to avoid funky disfigurations, or pay the money to maintain the tattoos so they don't fade, I don't think it's worth having a permanent mark on yourself that won't maintain its permanency as an image.

ultimategothguide said...

@ Unlacing the Victorians - ditto this, if people aren't willing to pay for touch-ups, recolourations etc; care for their tattoo properly and take things like pregnancy stretchmarks into consideration when getting their tattoo, they certainly shouldn't be getting them.

Fair enough, it's early days for me yet, but I plan to be exceedingly careful with my tatt and keep it well-maintained.


Cool tattoos on foxy ladies are sexy as hell! 'nuff said.

Maggie said...

As a tattoed girlfriend of a bearded guy, I couldn't disagree more with the Daily Fail's (<- love it!) revelations :)

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