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Friday, 13 January 2012

Goth jobs, continued

An old reader request I dug up reminded me of all the great comments I had on my December post about Goth jobs. The original post was a little bit tongue in cheek but so many of you posted about what jobs you have and what you are qualified to do - the responses were so varied! Just shows that stereotypical examples of  'Goth jobs' are way off track for many people.

Patricia Morrison
Source: Google
The reader request was from Craig, and went thusly, "I was wondering, I was going to go search for jobs, and I was wondering if there is a way I can continue to do what I want without being discriminated against. Any advice?"

Having never worked in a job with a strict dress code and suffered very little discrimination I was slightly stuck for an answer. I tend to override people's assumptions by being overwhelmingly cheery and friendly, which is probably the best advice I can give.

But I thought I would put up some of the comments I received from readers to show Craig that subcultural affiliation in no way holds one back from getting a job if you don't allow it to (e.g. tone it down when you know it will be required) and hopefully some of you can pass on some of your own advice.

So what jobs do Ultimate Goth Guide readers hold? Amongst us, we have:
  • two nurses (Lady Anhedonia and Kakuidori)
  • a painter/decorator (Leena)
  • a technical engineer (Linnea-Maria)
  • writers (Nightwind, Steff Metal)
  • a seamstress (akumaxkami)
  • a lecturer (and former teaching assistant) (InfiltratorN7)
  • a high-level security professional (S.Raven)
  • a volunteer firefighter (S.Raven)
  • a teacher (Tante Fledermaus)
  • an executive assistant for a CEO (Bane)
  • volunteering to make Braille books for the blind (Steff Metal)
  • radio show host (Tenebris In Lux)
  • several models (Toxic Tears, Saphire Rainforest)
  • a financial aid analyst for a university (BellaDonna)
  • several artists (Ghoulina Bones, Leena)
  • a domiciliary carer (SkeleDuck)
  • a freelance IT journalist (who used to work in TV) (Eurofighter)
  • an office worker (Loreia Lunatic)
  • a corporate receptionist (Maggie)
  • a mail sorter (anon)
  • a photographer (Mysteria Violent)
  • a pharmacist (Vulcan_Butterfly)

40 comments:

VictorianKitty (Sophistique Noir) said...

I missed that post! I'm a graphic designer and Web site developer for a Fortune 500 company.

Miss Eva Morgan Reeve said...

I'm a administrative agent/librarian/so many art related things. :)

Anonymous said...

Dog groomer

Snowhyte said...

I went to school for graphic design - still working on finding a job in that field because they are slim in my area - currently I work in a department store (so in the retail clothing industry).

Lady Bethezda @ Bethezda's Preocupations said...

I have an online store and work for myself. That way I never have to conform to a dress code. But... before my liberation I worked as a salon/spa manager and was able to wear pretty much what I wanted. Granted though, my style isn't too over the top. I just have a lot of visible tattoos.

Nice blog BTW... I've been following for a while, just never commented.

LovleAnjel said...

I am a paleontologist. People bring me skulls!

Amaranth L Rayne said...

I'm a volunteer at my local British Heart Foundation, and hope to open a DIY/craft shop.

Scyrith said...

I'm a programmer and business systems analyst at a high-profile pharma company. My goth/metal boyfriend is a programmer as well. For our friends- we know two metal and one goth chemist, two metal geologists, one goth and three metal programmers,a metal political analyst, and a metal astrophysicist.
For science! <3

Alexandriaweb said...

I'm a charity worker, I have to wear a suit but in the summer months I wear a white one similar to the one Patricia wore in the video for Dominion :)

Hexotica said...

Partly self-employed selling handmade gothic-burlesque accessories online, partly employed at a wholesale fashion accessories company! I can wear whatever I want in the back-of-house position I have now, and am loving it.

Anonymous said...

I was a bank teller for one of the largest banks in the US for three years. I wore a suit, cardigan, or blouse with pants or a skirt, usually in black and as for makeup, I used typically goth colors applied with a light touch. And my hair was black.

I'm a stay-at-home mom now, but I still maintain my "gothiness" by wearing "regular" clothes in a pallette of goth colors, as I do sometimes volunteer in my daughters classroom and I don't want to be a distraction.

Charlotte said...

I am a nursery nurse. We have uniform and dress code so the only thing that gives my gothness away is my bright red hair.

ultimategothguide said...

Amaranth - I work for my local BHF too!

TheHalloweenLadybug said...

Ok, I'm still a student. But I hope to be a pilot some day which means a big restriction on clothes and makeup...guess I'll have to do Charlotte does and dye my hair!!

katysioux said...

I work in a call center and also part time retail.

Lady Of Gothica said...

awesome entry. i'm also a student but hope one day i'll be a human resouce manager :D

Natalie said...

I'm a Library Technician at a University :)

icyhighs said...

I'm an outsider and I just wanted to know: doesn't 'toning it down' constitute some breakage of code or something? I can't seem to express this without sounding like a complete twat but do you know what I mean? Would ..err..'hardcore' goths (is that a thing?) look down on you for not just always being ..you know..hardcore? I hope I don't offend anyone, I'm genuinely curious. And I guarantee you this happens in a lot of (sub)cultural circles, like the local metal scene here for example. I know kids who got beaten up because they worked part-time at McDonalds, one whose leg got battered with an electric guitar. So just wondering if it applies to goths you know too.

Tenebris In Lux said...

"radio show host (Tenebris In Lux)"
And damn proud of it, too!

I might work at an amphitheatre soon ..

Cupcake.on.Crack said...

I am a student, and hold a work study postion for my school's Media Center.

I hope one day to go Law Enforcement or Forsensic Science, specifically Forensic Psychology and Forensic Art.

Dalestair Kidd said...

I used to work for Hungry Jacks (fast food)

Now I'm going to study fashion.

InfiltratorN7 said...

icyhighs that's doesn't seem to be a thing in the goth subculture. There's no pressure to 'be authentic' or 'keeping it real' like in some subcultures like punk. Studies have shown that goths are found in a variety of jobs and are more likely to have qualifications and be middle class. Certainly some styles of goth fashion are expensive to maintain so you'd need the money!

Goths are generally not known to turn up their noses at people for having a job. Instead there are numerous sites, blog articles and forum threads discussing how to dress appropriately in the workplace while keeping some gothyness intact - CorpGoth basically. Toning it down is not selling out, it means there's other things that are important in your life besides maintaining a certain image. Caring about your career does not make you any less goth, nor does it mean you care less about other aspects about your life (I believe in maintaing a healthy work-life balance).

Nightwind said...

Thanks for following up on this subject and for coming up with such an excellent compilation Amy! It would seem that we are indeed, being creative about our choices.

In the original post about Goth jobs, you mentioned the possibility of giving haunted tours. I cannot tell you how much that has inspired my imagination.

As I might have mentioned, I'm not only surrounded by cemeteries where I live, but there is a place called "Ghost Hallow" just back in the woods a bit from the cemeteries. I'm also a history buff and have a fairly good grasp on the early history of my community.

I'm really giving this historic/ghost tour idea some thought. It will require some investment however, so I'm hoping that the economic situation around here will improve soon. Thanks for the inspiration!

Lady Arachne said...

im a dentist...who says goths can't be dentists

Boots said...

I love how you complied all this Amy. Brilliant :D

Joules said...

I'm a paramedic. It's like nursing but cooler. I used to wear skull earrings and a skull belt buckle but my supervisor requested I not. I'm hoping to cross-train in a different skill (I prefer trade schools to colleges) later this year or early next but I haven't decided which yet. I'm thinking electrician or something else useful and interesting.

Riskia Velika said...

I am still young but my part-time job is in an ice cream parlor/restaurant so I am a waitress and ice cream scooper... :S

Lesthi said...

Hi I started to read your blog yesterday, i truly like it so I read a lot of it :D I thought I'd share my job with you also, I'm a pastry cook and you would think it would be hard looking gothic then but I often get compliments cause I still manage to look like me in the white outfit that everyone has to wear. I wear a black choker and a see through hairnet so with my hairaccesories I can show everyone who I am. ^^ and the black makeup of course.

Raven Nyqvist said...

I'm a journalist and page designer. [Cue gasps of shock] Don't worry, I don't work for newspapers. I work for showbiz magazines. I generally wear black to work, but on most Fridays, I often change my hair colour or wear a skull/crossbone ring - and no one minds at all. I have very cool and understanding colleagues.

Leena said...

Wuhuu I am there!

Raven, blogmistress extraordinaire said...

I work at the front desk in a small motel. I get the odd rude or confused person, but mostly, people just say they like my hair.

Sarah said...

I am a page (I shelve things) in a public library branch, and am lucky enough to have co-workers who think my eccentricities and mode of dress are charming. But again, a good work ethic and cheerful/polite attitude seems to make most people overlook an appearance they wouldn't accept in someone who is rude or lazy.

Anonymous said...

I have an Anthropology degree and currently work on the investment side of a major U.S. bank so my look is toned down; though in general that's how I dress anyway. I hope to become a Forensic Anthropologist in the near future.

WeepingCross said...

I'm a priest who used to be a museum curator. When I told friends about the change, several said things along the lines of 'How are you going to cope with wearing black all the time?'

Malice said...

I'm a bookkeeper, conservative office job. However, all the clients and my co-workers love my whimsical pink hair and my alternative style. Not everyone is as lenient, but sometimes you get lucky :)

App'y said...

I'm a self-employed gardener, at this time of year I mostly wear a high-vis orange jacket (It's warm, water proof and tax allowable) and Jack Pike, Gamekeeper’s trousers, for the same reasons !

Vulcan_Butterfly said...

I love these job posts! I love reading the comments to see what everyone else does for a living and whether or not they can dress a certain way. I do see a couple of comments by people who seem to think that people toning it down at work are going against some sort of "code" in that they are not really participating in the subculture if they can't dress a certain way all the time. I must disagree with this. I only wear vague hints of anything "goth" at work and the people I work with don't know how I look in my off time and I find that this is the only way I can have the job I do (unfortunately). I think when one is an adult, one must realize that there are appropriate times/jobs to dress a certain way and there are times when we must behave ourselves in the appearance department. As one gets older, it may also be a reason for some to tone down their outfits in the daytime. Another thing: I know quite a few people who participate in the subculture in my area who do not dress "goth" in any way but they enjoy the music and the scene. To me, fashion is an important part of the way I enjoy the subculture but it isn't for everyone.

Anonymous said...

I'm a chartered surveyor... and I think possibly the only goth(ic) one!!

Gorgane said...

I've wanted to comment on this for a looooong time but never found the courage before. Most goth jobs listed are somewhat "white collar" or artesan for obvious reasons but there are others like me! I'm a 24 year old bloke from Finland and a self identified goth. And i work as a car mechanic which can sometimes be real art form but can also involve banging something with a sledgehammer for an hour. Of course this line of work means that you can't always look (or smell) that nice and you have to wear protective clothing and keep your hair out of the way because long loose hair and moving engine parts can lead to a whole new world of pain.

I'm not exactly androgynous with my working mans body and i'm (sadly) losing my hair so employers just see me as another heavy metal dude but little they know of my wider perspective on things.

If you want to know more or have heard of someone else like me you can contact me: taneli.lukka@pp.inet.fi

Anyway, keep up the good work on that foggy island of yours. Your blog is actually the only one that i read on a daily basis. :)

Raven Gothica said...

I'm a receptionist, former animal carer and shop assistant.
I am currently working in Reception work but I'm a writer and musician in my spare time.
I am also considering being a make up artist.

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